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Troy DuMoulin, VP of R&D at Pink Elephant — Why AI adoption is a people challenge, not a tools problem
Troy DuMoulin
VP, Research & Development at Pink Elephant
24:20
July 23, 2025

The barrier to AI adoption is not the technology but that people are not being brought along, and most leaders are experimenting without an actual plan.

About the guest
Troy DuMoulin
VP, Research & Development at Pink Elephant

Troy DuMoulin leads research and development at Pink Elephant and is among the more recognised voices in ITSM, ITIL and Lean IT. He has spent over twenty years in IT management consulting and training, contributed to official ITIL publications across editions 2, 3 and 4, and co-founded the Lean IT Association.

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In this episode
00:30 Introduction 01:31 Troy's unconventional journey: From business to theater to theology to tech 02:23 Major shifts in IT 04:00 Carlotta Perez's framework on tech transitions 05:23 Venture funding vs. ROI — AI's current "frenzy" phase 08:29 Why AI's transition window is only 12–24 months 10:41 CIOs lack intentional AI plans 12:31 What most leaders don't understand about AI 15:41 Balanced scorecard approach to adopting AI 17:10 What percentage of your IT budget should go to AI? 18:50 Troy's best career advice 20:56 AI's biggest barrier 22:48 Advice for young IT aspirants: prioritize human skills, not just technical ones 23:49 Conclusion: empathy, wisdom, and humanity are our true edge in the AI era

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